Question for interview in Gulf times
–You fought ten years which includes the sacrifice of thousands of people for your agenda. You made your way to the government too. But now, what makes you think of a new political wing again? Has your ex-Party lost with its agenda or you want something different?
-That was a very pertinent question you have asked. First of all I have never regretted my past activities related to People’s War (PW). It was historical calling to remove feudalism in which more than thousands had sacrificed their lives. It was necessary political move to erode feudal base in order to create capitalist base. If all aspects of PW was geared to destroy feudalism then in order to construct capitalist base it was necessary to restructure methodology of leadership, restructure the organization, reinvent methodology of reaching the masses and reinvent programmes so as to create base for achieving socialist oriented capitalism. Even when we had come to peace process we had been raising these issues of restructure of our party within the old UCPN (Maoist) in line with new phase of construction of social oriented capitalism. But it was never heeded. Even while in government we kept insisting our party chairman to at least change our party structure at least in line with the then functioning of interim constitution. But again he did not heed.
– -Do you think people will support your new campaign for so called ‘Naya Shakti’. They are fed up with these kinds of political promises?
Thank you for warning. We had been saying that we are not one of those: A for Akeikrit Maobadi (from which all except Prachnda remains), B for Baidhya Maobadi(the first to form new Party), C for Chand Maobadi (the first to split from Baidhya Maobadi Party) and D for Doctor Maobadi (Dr Baburam Bhattarai who is now spearheading the campaign for ‘New Force”). The ‘New Force’ mission is fundamentally different as it did not start as a ready made split party but as a mission to start with new methodology of organization (participatory), new methodology of leadership (two term for leadership et), new methodology of organization(based on inclusion and proportional representation).
Politically speaking the New Force will be democracy and socialism with dialectical and historical materialism as the core principle. So it will adopt inclusive and participatory democracy.
Economically speaking the New Force aims at achieving rapid industrialization which avoids structural crises of both neo-liberalism and orthodox state socialism in order to arrive at alternative New Force which will usher in to economic revolution with social equity.
Socially speaking it will provide proportionate representation in the party and state organs to the three major cluster of nationalities, viz the Khas-Arya , the Tibeto-Burman or indigenoud Nationalties and the Madhesi-Tharu. Thus ushering inclusive development.
Culturally speaking we are going to imbue new culture of transparency, respecting the value of labour, the culture of accepting unity in diversity, in short all the culture which helps in removing remnants of feudal relations and all values which helps in creating the base for capitalism oriented to socialism.
- -We have seen Dr. Bhattarai being involved in several interaction programs with various sections of people but how far does this help you unify a big support to form a new power?
Our aim is to move away from traditional functioning of the Parties which is too much stuck to the status-quoits. We are for using state not as a means to stay on power but to use it to institutionalize change. Hence it has to now to incorporate panel of experts and panel of advisors in order to arrive at those politicians who are not only politically oriented but development oriented with knowledge on basic economy. The new democracy exercise will no longer be only procedural but it has to also inculcate substantive inclusive and participatory democracy. Hence in order to achieve this New Force is going through various interaction programs. The participatory method in a long run will ensure unity.
- -Nepal is in extreme form of crises now along with economic blockade. They no cooking gas, no electricity, no vehicles nothing at all. In these adverse situations, what is the significance of your new campaign ‘Naya Shakti’?
- We have clearly said movement in Madhesi is our internal problem it has to be solved by the government through dialogue. This is the third time since 8 years of promulgating interim constitution that they have agitated to strengthen inclusive federalism. Today when constitution through Constitution Assembly had been promulgated they are angry that the present constitution falls below interim constitution, whereas it should have gone beyond interim constitution. It is unfortunate that India has been dragged into this confusion. The only solution is to deal with India through diplomatic channel. In short these issues must not be mixed up but dealt separately.
- -Have you gone through the adverse reaction about your campaign in social networking site? Many people are not happy with your move. How can you overcome this make them believe in your new agenda?
We too have been using social media, particularly Dr. Baburam Bhattarai who have been disseminating our programs, aspirations and plans. We go with positive attitude those who have negative we leave to them to manage their negative attitude.
- -You have raised the issue of caste and ethnicity and even the federalism based on that. How far is this applicable in Nepal? Don’t you see the risk at national sovereignty and integrity?
- We have raised this in order to raise our human index. This is needed to enhance their productive capacities for ushering economic revolution. The ownership feeling, the sense of responsibilities towards the new nation will come only when their oppression is addressed, when their lost identities have been acknowledged in order to bring them to the new mainstream state, new mainstream economy.
– The political stalemate between the ruling and Madhesi parties is Nepal’s internal matter. How did India get involved?
– India being the immediate neighbor and with open border that too with most populous Indian states adjoining Tarai in Nepal they seem to have been dragged I suppose.
-Analyzing past patterns of Indian blockade, when do you think the current embargo will come to an end?
As soon as Madhesi issue is solved. This means the present constitution should not at the least fall short of the interim constitution, which all the parties had been following in the past 8 years without hiccups.